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what if we did like, whumpo
And on that note, I'm of the opinion that "whumpee" is no weirder a word than the normalized "blorbo", "scrimblo" or "scrunkly", but the non-whump community isn't ready for that point
#is that anything#honestly not a fan of whumpee I’m sorry but I’m a hater on this one#not rlly though like who cares#but i just feel like it needs a better ring to it#whumpster#whumped#whumpy#i uwu ified it somehow#honestly i think the problem is the word whump itself#it fits what it’s used for but it’s like#idk it’s like saying moist for me#ignore me though we don’t need to change it we don’t need to elbow ribbing ourselves to show everyone we know we’re cringe or whatever#even if I don’t like it I do in the way that I appreciate whump writers being sincere and genuine in their enjoyment of it#like it’s kind of adjacent to kink to me#it is kink for some people so like#yeah#idk I enjoy whump and I like that people are more cringe and free abt it than some other stuff#so who cares
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game time. if your ocs were popular fictional characters how exactly would fandom violently butcher and misinterpret their characters
#kikay speaks#forgot to play my own game.#sifri —#people would somehow manage to turn her into a hypercompetent girlboss dom TM#cishet men would hate her i feel like she’d get the mary sue treatment#oh and the fact that she’s a brown woman would Not Help#lettie —#also girlbossified to shit or innocent cute smol bean uwu#there’d probably be weird discourse where ‘she’s too cute to be horny’ is the main point of contention#the fact that she’s ALSO a brown woman would not help#mith —#himbo-ified :( or like the Aggressive Loud Guy or pathetic a heem heem whimper guy#probs be oversexualized to shit#also definitely a prime target for top/bottom discourse
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plain and simple i am not going to be able to remain in this fandom long-term if i have to keep putting disclaimers on every single one of my posts that say i don't condone dennis' bad, bad actions and that i am in fact aware he's got a history of sexual assault and dubious/nonconsent. the entire gang has done heinous shit. why is dennis the only one who needs to be treated like this? if some rando wants to post about how dennis is pookie pie that doesn't automatically mean they're blind to his crimes. every single member of the gang is a piece of shit. that's kind of the point.
draw dennis with cat ears who give a shit
#ada speaks#i'm not vagueing this is a constant thing ive experienced#i still have angry anons sitting in my askbox mad that i didn't explicitly condemn him last time i got into this#i'm really not a fan of the tension in the fandom the last few days#and like. i know its a hot button issue rn. everyone's going back and forth abt mac and dennis' SA#but this fandom genuinely does have an issue SPECIFICALLY MENTIONING things mac does to dennis and uwu-ifying them#when they are explicitly classified as SA in canon (which is an actual present issue i think needs to be addressed)#rather than like. just the mere MENTION of dennis outside of his SA is somehow condoning his actions#im sorry but i really do not feel the need to constantly talk about him assaulting women#everyone knows. everyone sees it. just bc i am dissecting other parts of his character does not mean i forgot he's a horrible person#it just means im trying to understand where he's coming from (which obviously does not change the facts.)#viewing dennis as a person with unresolved trauma stemming from elsewhere doesn't negate the damage he is doing to other people#he's not a real person where humanizing him does tangible damage#so i am going to continue to look into shit. when i talk about the CSA he went through it's not a justification.#but it does explain his actions in a character motivation type way which is what i am interested in#seeing what makes him tick#i think most people who follow me understand this by now. but i also don't think shit we see him do constantly in canon needs bringing up.#it's the subtle stuff that ties everything together and i want to put it all together to solve a puzzle
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ramble about ur favs i wanna hear abt ur thoughts -zaptrap
HAN’S INFODUMPING ABOUT JAY... START!!!!
so like sgdkdhdkdhd I say Jay and Lloyd are my “favorites” but honestly it’s so hard to pick favorites out of this skittles squad like I love EVERY character for a variety of different reasons. I was going to also infodump about Lloyd but then I started talking about Prime Empire and then this post got. Long. So. it's just Jay I may infodump about Lloyd another day especially since I'm very Conduit Brained Rn but yea yea!
this is long so i'm putting most of it under the cut so y'all don't kill me for making a huge long post
I considered putting Zane and Sora on here as well since I’d also consider them my “favs” but like this is already gonna be. A lot of. Infodumping (also i typed THIS part before I even started and decided not to yell about Lloyd because this already got long enough). Maybe I’ll make a separate post for those two hmm hmm much to consider but for now MY (technically) FAVORITE NINJAGO CHARACTER: JAY WALKER
THE SPARKPLUG WHO INVADED MY BRAIN LIKE A PARASITE
so hey his name is a pun this makes me laugh ridiculously hard every time I remember he is named. After a misdemeanor HSKSHDKFH
Jay is such an interesting case of a character for me because I started out the show not liking him. Which is. Stares at my entire account I think my feelings have changed somewhat
Jay starts out as an asshole I don’t think anyone can disagree with me there (although honestly they’re all assholes in early ninjago they bullied a ten year old and left him dangling several feet off the ground) but over the course of the show you can see him start developing into a much more interesting character. He goes from being so insecure he's faking everything about himself to someone who knows who he is and is so genuine about it
now yea we could argue about whether his character was too uwu-ified post-season 10 but this is the FUN HAN POST SO WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT the point is you can SEE the growth that Jay has gone through and I am going to show you that growth through what I call
✨ The Skybound to Prime Empire Effect ✨
I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THE IDEA THAT PRIME EMPIRE WAS WRITTEN TO BE A DIRECT PARALLEL OF SKYBOUND AND WAS CENTERED ON SHOWING HOW THE NINJA ESPECIALLY JAY HAVE GROWN THROUGHOUT THE SEASON
when season 12 rolls around we are at the point in Jay's development where he is CONFIDENT in who he is. He's a fun-loving jokester with the power of lightning and the drive to help people whenever he can. He uses jokes and humor to help alleviate tension and get people through whatever's happening. And when on his own what does he do?
BECOME AN ENTERTAINER BABEY
i like to think jay's club in prime empire was a safe haven for anyone stuck in the game who figured out hey. we Can't Leave and felt freaked about it. Also Jay would generally try and spread the word that hey something ISN'T RIGHT HERE which would lead people to want to stay with him
(totally plugging my friend's fic but this kind of thing is explored in would you like to enter prime empire by @finn-m-corvex y'all should check it out cool cool)
also the prime empire shorts which i watched all of in the midst of typing this video cuz i love them go watch them please please please jay was publically fighting the red visors which I imagine may have raised some red flags for some players
THIS SOMEHOW TURNED INTO PRIME EMPIRE INFODUMPING LMAO ANYWAYS Jay's confident! He becomes an entertainer because it's who he knows he is! And it's something that will get people hyped and having fun, which is very in-character for Jay to do! He uses those kinds of things to mask the Bad Things going on and get people remembering what's good
I've talked about this sort of thing before but that's Jay's whole philosophy as early as season 9! Which is a DIRECT contrast to how he views it in season 6, as Nadakhan puts it scarily accurately
"You make jokes to mask the fact that you're afraid"
(i was gonna grab a screenshot for that like i did with the hunted scene but netflix has bloCKED THE ABILITY TO TAKE SCREENSHOTS THE WAY I USED TO and i don't have them already and i'm too lazy to grab them from elsewhere so alas trust me he says it)
making jokes to hide your fear and using humor to remind yourself of what's good and coping with the bad are two VERY different outlooks on it
so I think this outlook is what drives him to make this glamrock persona in the first place - this is a bad situation, one he's in with other civilians, and what better way to keep him and themself safe until the others get there than throwing a big performance at a safe place!
also it's just so gender okay I want to look like Superstar Rockin' Jay so badly
it's also interesting to see his outlook on his parents change over time! In season six he finds out Ed and Edna aren't his birth parents and feels upset about it, not understanding why his birth parents would've abandoned him. In season twelve, that outlook changing is EXACTLY why Jay's able to get through to Unagami
"I was abandoned by my parents, too!... I never understood why, and I never had the chance to even ask. But I always hoped there was a good reason. What if there's a reason?"
(again curse you netflix i wanted SCREENSHOTS whatever whatever)
It's this scene that gets Unagami to calm down long enough for Milton Dyer to get there, and presumably is what stops him from just. Flattening him and Jay like a pancake.
to piggyback off of this i absolutely adore how Unagami and Jay consider each other adopted brothers in that one book I still haven't read and I hope he's in Dragons Rising at some point Unagami is my favorite "villain" (no longer a villain) in the whole show he deserves more screentime
like this is where i found out about this and it's plagued my mind ever since. i need to read. this book just for them
SO YEA OKAY Prime Empire is "Who is Jay as a Person Post-Skybound" to me also it opens up so many fascinating things about Jay. I rest my case
so backpedaling a little bit. JAY CARES SO MUCH ABOUT HIS PARENTS GUYS IT'S SO SOFT AND I'M sobs
like yea the first episode with Ed and Edna in it has Jay avoiding them like the plague but this gets explained very easily when you remember he was bullied for his home life before he became a ninja. It makes a lot more sense why he wouldn't want them around his new friends, assuming they'd react the same way. Also how was he supposed to know literally all the rest of the groups parents were either dead, presumed dead, or had a toxic relationship with their kid lmao
(Cole calling his mom kills me. Cole's mom is dead. I know they probably just didn't think that far ahead when writing the dialogue but it's so funny mans pretended to call his dead mom to get on Jay for not appreciating his parents iconic behavior)
anyways literally every episode Ed and Edna are central to (except like the one in skybound) Jay stops at nothing to protect his parents and it means the absolute world to me he's so much like them!! They raised an inventive little nerd and he will stop at nothing to make sure they're safe and it's. It's SO IMPORTANT TO ME OKAY
ALSO this is an excuse to clip my favorite piece of dialogue possibly in the entire show. Except Netflix won't let me now. So you just get the text dialogue
Jay's just fallen from the sky with a messed up eye and is incredibly distraught that all his friends are captured. And his dad just. The woRLD IS FALLING APART AND HE'S EATIN' SOUP-
Ed i love you
anyways
anways anyways this just turned into me rambling about prime empire and then Ed and Edna and a lot of disjointed other stuff but thank you for this opportunity i was going to also ramble about lloyd but i put this post in a word count and
yea i think that's enough for a tumblr post anyways! If anyone wants any like. More logically thought out and direct thoughts about characters feel free to send me asks this was fun thank u @zaptrap for this opportunity to scream about jay
#help this was. my brain is so not intact today so if this makes absolutely 0 sense i understand#i did end up watching some prime empire stuff during my ramblings and guys. the ending of that season still makes me cry#this is fully prime empire propaganda btw i need to like. talk about the season more because despite what my skybound posting would lead#y'all to believe THIS IS THE ACTUAL SEASON THAT LIVES IN MY HEAD AT ALL TIMES MOST OF MY MUTUALS ARE JUST MORE SKYBOUND BRAINED#AND IT RUBS OFF ON ME EASILY#but no prime empire is the fucking best#if i talk about jay long enough it WILL just turn into prime empire#also after I wrapped up this post i continued thinking more jay thoughts but this post is already long enough#like how jay is actually SO incredibly self-sacrificing and how he cares so much about helping people#also wow i didn't even mention his powers in that whole ramble. rare for me.#one day i wanna do!! a powers masterpost. like how i view all the ninja's elemental powers#but thats another day's project i am. So Eepy#anyways hope y'all appreciated this#also thank u serp for sending this ask which allowed me to Scream into the Void about jay walker#category 11 han moment fr#ninjago#lego ninjago#jay#jay walker#unagami#edna#ed#i have no idea if ANY of this is coherent btw#prime empire#skybound#hunted#quest for the lost powers#ask#spinjitsu screams
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i’m remembering fics i would read in like 2017 of like. keith being uwu-ified and so so ashamed of being a galwa >~< and it sucks because the big bad allura is a horrible person being unreasonable 😢 and use it as an excuse to have lance heroically defend him from her. hashtag knight in shining blue armor. like all three of them are so mischaracterized in that it’s insane. even if you were to somehow remove the clear fact that this is a racist depiction of allura it makes no sense from a characterization standpoint. and it was SUCH a common fic trope too. god that fandom was a mess
#like i’m no stranger to creative interpretation but cmon#at least keep it close to canon. or at LEAST make it interesting#thank god i grew up and realized how stupid this is#txt#crit
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It's really sad how people keep going after your group just because you defend yourselves
Apparently, the statements "I'm generally content with the quality of my personal stories" and "I spot many issues with this comic" justify getting spammed with graphic death threats and ableist insults
Yet it's insisted that you're the ones who are too harsh? It's straight up unfair.
Who would have thought that a group of people might occasionally get upset after being crucified and ridiculed by countless strangers?
Funny how they NEVER have a justification beyond "well shut up no one wants to hear you"
Somehow, it's always YOUR fault that a part of the fandom goes rabid whenever someone doesn't conform to the current "right" opinion, and YOU'RE to blame for THEIR ungodly behavior. That doesn't make any sense, does it?
This fandom is vain and abhorrent to the nth degree and y'all deserve better. That's all I wanted to say.
Par for the course, innit. They'll lash out at us. They'll hand out death threats. They'll make disgusting ableist comments about my autism, and similarly terrible comments towards my friends. They'll threaten to bomb SEGA HQ and stick Iizuka's head on a pike, among other wild declarations of violence. But don't you dare make a goofy meme about Surge not living up to her hype. And whatever you do, don't even think about criticising the unprofessional antics of the IDW crew. What are you, a monster?
They dismiss us as insignificant one minute, then fearmonger so hard that they see fit to give us a boogeyman-esque moniker the next. I'd be surprised if they could walk in a straight line without contradicting themselves.
As for "You talk so much about your fics!" ...No shit. I'm a guy with a blog. This isn't a movie production with a budget, I don't have a team or advertisements backing me up. And unlike fanartists, I don't have my own art to catch people's attention. I kind of have to talk about my writing in order to get it out there and inform people of its existence, and while I try not to sound too much like an unskippable YouTube ad, what else am I supposed to do? Upload them silently and then never refer to them again? How is showing passion for my work any different from official creators showing passion for theirs? Just because fanfic tends to get less attention on here than fanart doesn't mean it's not worth sharing, do they want fandom to flourish or not?
When I compare my work to a certain comic, I do it to highlight the dissonance. If fanfic writers - plural, not just myself - can understand the importance of keeping the characters recognizable, and making the universe faithful despite any necessary differences, then what excuse do official writers who have been involved with the series for over a decade have? If someone who doesn't even love Sonic that much compared to other characters, finds him annoying and unfunny half the time (no, not just in the Pontaff games, in general), and even finds it a pain in the ass to write for him at times and has more fun writing other characters because of this, can still attempt to write what made him appeal to fans... why do writers who supposedly love him so much keep fumbling so hard with him?
I compare for the sake of highlighting why these off-kilter portrayals are so easy to spot. If Sonic Twitter only gets "He's just stroking his own dick" from all of that, then they haven't been paying attention.
The most ironic thing about it all is that they've only gotten more vitriolic as most of us have mostly moved on from the height of IDW discourse (cause the comic goes in circles at this point, and is very likely to be running on fumes due to IDW's financial troubles, so there's no point). Yeah, I'll still criticise it now and then, and make a meme on occasion, but I rarely make lengthy ted talks about it or participate in ongoing Lanolin Is A Bitch/Silver Is Uwu-ified/Whisper Is Trauma Bait/etc back and forths anymore, because it's just tiring now. And since most current Sonic stuff has been putting me off in general, combined with growing fatigue and frustration at not being able to criticise certain games without people waving the finger at me (especially SA2, since the Year of Shadow has made it the center of attention yet again...), I've took a step back from intense Sonic discussion to focus on Stellar, as well as other fandom projects, like my recent brainstorming for Paper Mario or: How I Learned To Insert Eggman and Love The Vivian™.
In no way can you say I've been up in their faces as of recent. Yet they continue to cry otherwise, because they want people like me gone completely.
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OKAY UMMMM this is hard bc I know most of this. imma give you a couple:
ezekiel jones bc silly guy & uhhhh chuuya or gin, ig you haven’t done them bc i literally CALLED that you’d love them!!!
also did you know that. um. ily~
hi beloved ily 🥰💕 starting with gin bc. fave 💓💓💓
first impression:
"wait 'he'? i didn't think corey said they were a boy??" and then i think i proceeded to actually pause the episode and check bsd wiki to make sure i had the right character and correctly remembered what you told me about them
impression now:
i need to see them again Right Now. please asagiri bring them back i need to see them i need to know they're okay i need them to reunite with akutagawa and i need to see what happens between them and tachi and and adn
favorite moment:
all of them <3 uhh real answer is i really love the omake where they're going around asking for advice about how to help akutagawa deal with his stress in a healthy way now that he can't kill people
idea for a story:
sometimes i think about a tachigin bodyswap au.. post-doa arc so gin has to deal with tachi's limited vision while tachi is suddenly faced with the brunt of gin's body dysphoria. gin hates hearing their voice but tachi doesn't actually mind it and he won't shut up. gin doesn't mind talking either now though bc their voice just sounds like tachihara's. and they don't actually mind being in his body either. but also having to watch their body from the outside is weird and awful. they have to call akutagawa to pick them up and take them to the agency so dazai can switch them back. akutagawa seems to hate the switch even more than gin and tachihara do.
unpopular opinion:
they're the best character in bsd.
favorite relationship:
any flavor of tachigin and also the akutagawa siblings!!! i want to see more of them in canon asagiri please also i'm kind of really intrigued by their dynamic with dazai,, like we don't really see much interaction between them in canon but i like how i picture their dynamic in my mind bc gin has a lot of complicated feelings towards him and i'm not sure dazai really even realizes that, or at least he doesn't realize the full extent of it
favorite headcanon:
transmasc gin!!!
chuuya:
first impression:
"he's the geto of bungou stray dogs"
impression now:
for someone who has literally the most fans out of all the bsd characters, there are surprisingly few people who even remotely understand them😐
favorite moment:
basic but probably when he comes to save the ada in the helicopter. or the scene in dead apple when he goes to fight the dragon and ango is like "dude dazai's probably dead. you're going to die if you use corruption." and chuuya's like LOL dazai??? dead????? trust me i'd know if that waste of bandages finally kicked the bucket. now stop talking i have a dragon to beat up
idea for a story:
i think i told you about this but a kunichuu 5+1 that's just chuuya not being able to shut up about kunikida when talking to literally everyone at the port mafia. they're spending a half hour talking about kuni during an executive meeting and they aren't even dating him yet. how is this somehow worse than teenage dazai and chuuya, mori wonders. at least it isn't dazai, kouyou argues, blissfully unaware that dazai will end up being part of the relationship too.
unpopular opinion:
i don't like transmasc chuuya. it won't turn me off a fic completely but chuuya is one of those characters like cherry and zuko who gets softened and uwu-ified and oftentimes, this is just made even worse when they're written as trans. which is. a problem across fandoms in general obviously since cherry and zuko get the same treatment. also this shouldn't be unpopular but chuuya didn't spend like eight months crying himself to sleep after dazai left. hello??? do you even hear yourself??? i'm not a big fan of femchuuya either and in fact like that less than femdazai. nor am i particularly into ada chuuya, mostly because people soften their character way too much when they write ada chuuya. i want my chuuya still recognizable as chuuya!!! alas most people can't even get chuuya's characterization right regardless of any au or gender headcanons. anyway i'm sure i have a bunch more but i'll stop here
favorite relationship:
have you heard of kunichuu. or kunichuuzai even. it's not as if we have spoken about this at length multiple times or anything
favorite headcanon:
nonbinary chuuya!!!!!
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ezekiel:
first impression:
i first watched the librarians in 2015 i do NOT remember that
impression now:
i miss him :(
favorite moment:
in the apple of discord episode where he snatches the apple but nothing happens bc he's "already the worst version of himself". i don't think we talk enough about the implications of that!!! the others immediately went for murder but ezekiel's "worst version" of himself is?? a thief who's kinda lazy but still clearly cares about everyone around him?? do you understand how insane that is!!!!!!
idea for a story:
once a very long time ago (in high school) i started writing an arospec ezekiel fic. i didn't get very far and i'm sure whatever i had written was bad but it was such a good idea
unpopular opinion:
i don't think there were any popular ezekiel opinions i heavily disagreed with?? best i can think of is that i like caszekiel better than jassandra
favorite relationship:
jazekiel realness..... and i do enjoy caszekiel too
favorite headcanon:
demiromantic/demisexual ezekiel!! it's canon TO ME
#do not ask a woman her age. a man his salary. or zukkaoru what they think of the bsd fandom's interpretation of chuuya#anyway ty for the ask corey ilyyyyyyyy <333#ask game#corey tag
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town between getting a giwwfwiend and getting weawwy into wussian witewatuwe!! :3 I feew wike da two awe muwutuawwy excwusive somehow UwU
This post has been UwU-ified!
torn between getting a girlfriend and getting really into russian literature. i feel like the two are mutually exclusive somehow
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#I really hate the way Tumblr talks about drug addiction. Addicts aren't cute fuzzy innocent angels. They harm children.#My parents were drug addicts and I was deprived of a normal healthy childhood. Y'all need to think about stuff like this.#Addiction should be treated as an illness and not a crime. I'm a big advocate for this.#But stop ~*uwu*~ifying it please. A lot of addicts neglect or even abuse children or immediate family members and#that is never talked about on here cuz that would be ''ableist'' somehow
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[Image ID: Two screenshots from tumblr user “yiqiangmina.” The first says “PLEASE post the “fandom impacts canon” rant I’ve had similar feelings for quite awhile now. I hate how Thomas lets fans influence his characterization of Sides and how the writers room made it worse.”
The second reads “Because “Logan’s the mom” “Logan loves wine” and all came from the FANS. Which is also why i believe Logan’s “stop ignoring me” thing is becoming an actual arc.” /End ID]
These are my thoughts exactly!!
I feel like Thomas has always been pretty interactive with his fans, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing! Like,,cool,,,people could send asks to his blog..and it’s kind of apparent that he (or someone on the SaSi team) goes through tags and finds art (or like? there is some other process for the fanart shout outs that we are unaware of). On their own. And those aren’t necessarily terrible things? But combine it with the “writers room” and Joan, who I believe was the main writer for the series (or at least put a lot of love and time into writing good characters), it feels like the show is becoming a caricature of itself.
In the most recent episodes Roman has felt like his s1 self, Logan is becoming more and more like his fanon personality, hell, I even feel like Virgil is becoming very “uwu”-ified in the canon series. And it feels so abrupt! I was watching the most recent Aside and i was hit with whatever the fuck Roman was doing, because he felt so much louder and more annoying than I’d remembered him, and I couldn’t tell if it was a narrative choice, or maybe I was remembering him wrong? But now I realize it was probably just bad writing.
And I *so* agree that the whole “stop ignoring me” arc is coming from the fans. There really hasn’t been any build up to it in the canon series, and most of the emotions that Logan has been expressing in the most recent episodes felt like a completely fanon version of the canon character. Why is Logan suddenly so ok with being more openly emotional? Why does he suddenly feel upset about the others “ignoring” him when there are very few canon instances of that happening? What the fuck????
And I do think this comes from how Thomas and the rest of the crew interact with fans. I think that the way asks are open (or at least used to be open) on Thomas and Joans blogs influenced how the characters were written because the fans ideas about the characters were present in those asks. I think the “fan artist shout outs” are good in theory, but in practice looking through tags or whatever will definitely influence how Thomas/the team sees the characters. I *hate* the patreon choice and the “writers room” choice because there is no way in fucking hell that fans are not influencing the real fucking arcs in the canon series through that. I dislike that they can’t hire actual animators and instead rip off fans to animate their episodes, because, again, if they are interacting with those artists at all beyond a very formal and professional relationship, then those artists will influence the team.
And maybe I’m wrong!! I have No idea what happens behind the scenes of Sanders Sides, but recently the show has felt off. It has felt way too much like the fandom. I used to be able to watch the episodes and be slapped in the face with how different the fans view of the sides is compared to the actual canon personalities. Now it feels like it’s all muddled together, like Roman has become a bigger, louder, more egotistical asshole than his character in SvS and the first two asides felt (aka his most recent character development), how Virgil is becoming cuter and more palatable recently, how Janus is somehow completely forgiven by Thomas and Patton??? How Logan’s arc feels out of place, and how it feels like he’s saying lines lifted directly from fanfiction. I hate it!! It’s ruining the show for me!! Because i reallly dislike this fandom and how toxic it has gotten over time, and I dont like the see the fanon concepts of much more complex and interesting characters becoming the canon versions.
And again, I would like to stress that Thomas has always been very entrenched in the fandom. That his view of the characters is definitely somewhat influenced by that. And the recent choices with “writers room”, all the patreon bullshit, the dresses, and (in my opinion) the tiktoks have emphasized his involvement with fans and fandom, and that the recent narrative choices might reflect that.
Also i feel like Joan being gone will have a real affect on the show. I don’t know why. I just don’t really trust Thomas or the rest of the team at this point because of the animation shit, the time between episodes, the patreon, etc.
This is probably really hard to follow and I’m sorry i just,,, I dislikes the most recent episode so strongly and I have a lot of feelings lmao. (P.S lmk if the Image ID can be improved!!)
#augh im sorry this is long and kind of rambley and doesn't make a lot of sense but still#party rambles#thomas sanders criticism#ts criticism#please let me know if i need to tag anything else
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Can we take a moment to talk about what a tragic character Minerva is? Y’all know that for the longest time I haven’t been the biggest fan of her, and honestly I’m still not? but I think I might’ve had a breakthrough on why that is.
Whenever I’ve asked around to see why people find her so appealing or why they consider her their favorite, I’ll get answers like, “she’s such a complex character and she deserved a redemption arc!” or “she should’ve come back to the school with us! Let Minnie be happy, you cowards! Telltale did her dirty! I could write paragraph after paragraph about her!” all sorts of things along those lines… but like, no one seems to want to actually talk about her. I find that interesting? Since when I do follow up with a “care to explain further?” I get nothing. Radio static. Like…. no, talk to me please, I just wanna understand-
Minerva within the context of TFS is such a tragedy. She grew up in a school for troubled youth where all the adults left them for death at the start of the breakout, they had walkers trying to eat the living all around them, and I’m sure she saw her fair share of traumatic violence and despair… but on the bright side, she always had her twin sister, Sophie, and little brother, Tenn. She had her friend and eventual girlfriend, Violet. She had music, and a dorm full of pretty paintings done by Sophie. She and Louis composed a song together to make everyone feel better. There are worse places to live than the school.
Then one day she got traded away to a bunch of raiders against her will, having no idea what the hell these people were gonna do to her and Sophie. They were made to be soldiers to fight in a war that had nothing to do with them. The delta fucking broke her. If we’re to believe Lilly’s story about the twins, they started their brainwashing process early on when Sophie was still alive, and it seems like Minerva was easier to control as Sophie was still planning a way out and causing trouble. Then, when Sophie convinced her to steal a boat and get the hell out, they got caught and the delta forced her to murder her own twin sister.
Like…. I’m sorry, not only did Minerva kill her own sister, but she was made to believe that was the right thing to do? That line she says about how she had to prove her loyalty to the place she calls home? That shit’s ingrained in her brain, you can tell that isn’t the first time she’s heard or said that very thing. That is what made her family to the delta. Delta is her home now, her family. Sophie was just a thing that needed to be dealt with. You keep your head down, do as you’re told, and you survive. You survive and you get to go home, eat a hot meal, take a shower, and be with your delta family. If not, you end up like Sophie.
What’s also fucked is that Minerva actually cares about these people now. Think about that. After everything they did to her and made her do, she’s been trained to see them as her family and obey. When you save Louis and he kills Dorian, Minerva actually cries out and is visibly hurt by her death. When she’s with the other raiders on land, she's screaming at walkers to get away from them. She cares about the people who made her kill Sophie… and no one ever talks about that??
She fucking hates Clementine. Clementine is just another thing in Minnie’s way. I know the part of the fandom likes to ship these two together and they think it’s hot when they fight and shit, but within the canon text, Minerva wants Clementine gone. Dead. She is the thing stopping her from having her old family merge with her new family. If Clementine hadn’t made them fight, they all would’ve been captured and they’d all be a delta family now. She would’ve had Tenn back.
Clementine is the problem, she made everyone fight back and that’s why people are dead. Minerva hates her for it… it’s not a “I hate you but like the sexual tension, y’know?” that I see people pretend it is, it’s “you are ruining everything and if I have to, I will kill you myself and I won’t give a second thought about it when they toss your body overboard.”
Like….. seriously, think about how fucked up all of this is. Minerva is a husk of who she was before she was taken away. Sure, you do have to keep in mind that when Tenn and Violet are describing her, their sights are a bit clouded, y’know? But I do believe that she was someone who was kind and cared about people, she wanted to make people feel safe and comforted.
Now she’s a brainwashed soldier who won’t help the people she used to call friends when they’re about to get limbs cut off. She won’t hesitate to knock someone unconscious or threaten a child. She’s willing to trick them into being captured with no regard for what’s going to happen to them. … all she knows is this was the mission, and now they all get to be together again back at the delta.
Then when she finds out there’s a bomb on the boat, she ditches Violet to blow up with it in order to make it to land herself. She loses her shit seeing everyone die and gets her face chewed off by a walker… and then she tries to blow Clementine and AJ up with a grenade.
Oh, and who can forget the fact that she tracks the group down with plans of murdering Tenn so that they can go to a better place together? And she’ll take down anyone who gets in her way?
Like….. jesus christ, Minerva’s waaaaay too far gone. It’s awful.
I think that’s what stumps me about why she’s so loved in the way that she is. It’s not that I don’t understand why she’s complex and well-written, I get that perfectly fine. She’s a compelling character study when you comb over all her scenes and take different factors into account.
What I don’t understand is why we tend to just throw everything interesting about her away? For what?
These days, I never see anyone talking about any of this unless they’re insisting she deserved a redemption arc which…. Eh, I’ll touch on this later. What I mostly see here and mostly other platforms is how great it would be if she and Clementine made out, or hey what if she and Violet got back together if she did come back to the school? Or they just….the best term I have for this is “uwu-ify.” As in she’s reduced to a caricature of a tall, pretty, mean, white lesbian who has “good damage.”
People insist that Telltale are cowards or bastards because their predictions of her turning on the delta to save Clem and crew didn’t happen. Instead, Minerva ends up being the final baddie you gotta get away from, and she ends up taking someone down with her. But did you really expect to just do a 180 and suddenly decide being brainwashed for over a year was lame and Clementine and friends are cool? Gonna help them out and be with Tenn again? Sure, there’s some left over trauma but love conquers and fixes everything, right?
Uh…. no? That’s not how people work? Honestly, if we entertain the idea that Minerva wasn’t bit and somehow didn’t murder Clementine when they all got back to the school…. romance is the last thing she is ever gonna think of??
I think that’s what bothers me most when reading these au’s and rants about redemption and the entire idea of clemerva as a whole. It’s the same thing that I see happen with Violet- Minerva only has value to fans if she’s in a wlw relationship. By herself, she doesn’t matter. They don’t care about her canon story, they don’t care about Sophie, they don’t care about discussing what could’ve happened if she and Tenn reunited under better circumstances or had a healing recovery together. But why?
Throwing a girlfriend at her isn’t some band aid that’s gonna cover up all the bad she went through?? Having an enemies to lovers romance with Clementine isn’t going to fix a years worth of brainwashing, trauma or the fact that she murdered her own sister and the delta told her she's proved her worth to them??
Having the support of those around her is a good thing, don’t get me wrong. The idea of the Ericson crew as a whole trying to help her out and do the best they can to accommodate her is bittersweet since there’s only so much they can do. They’re not trained therapists, which is what Minerva would need and plenty of years ahead of her to work through and come to terms with everything that happened as well as taking steps forward. I’m not saying that she shouldn’t have friends or that she couldn’t have a healthy romantic relationship someday... but that isn’t the solution, y’know?
I don’t know how else to explain this, but it makes me feel weird that all of this stuff is flat out overlooked or doesn’t appear to matter to fans of her.
Look, I get it. We all want these characters to be happy. AU’s are a thing, after all. Sometimes we want to forget about the bad things and focus on the good that bring us comfort. You wanna gush about the idea of an AU where the twins never got traded, the raiders didn’t exist, and Clementine got to meet them the way they were before? I feel that, AU’s are super comforting and fun to explore, and my point isn’t to try and shame anyone who has an AU you like this.
Hell, you think I don’t have days where I pretend mute Louis isn’t a thing because the whole concept of Louis having his tongue cut out of his mouth breaks my fucking heart? No, lot’s of days I just want to forget everything about that route, I want to set aside all the bad and just intake as much clouis fluff as I can get…. But that doesn’t mean I always ignore or refuse to acknowledge the bad just because I don’t like it. I fucking hate the fact that Louis loses his tongue when you don’t save him, but guess what? That’s a canon route you can play, just like any other route, and the possibilities that come with a mute Louis are vast and compelling.
This is how it is for me… my favorite characters are my favorite for a reason, and I take all the bad with the good. Louis isn’t perfect, and I don’t want him to be. I was to dive into his backstory about why did that to his parents, I like to talk about what he went through with Marlon’s murder and his feelings about AJ and Clementine at the point, I like to view his love of music as bittersweet. He can stand on his own, and while he is a love interest for Clementine, that isn’t his only purpose.
I know everyone’s different, they express their love for characters in their own ways, but I do have a genuine question: do you guys actually like Minerva?
Believe it or not, I’m not trying to step on toes or make everyone feel defensive which I know is how people will react to this. “You’re just saying all of this to make us feel bad for shipping clemerva! You don’t even like Minnie so you don’t get to say shit!” yeah yeah, I hear you and look, it’s true that she’s not my favorite character. I know I’ve said I hate her in the past but upon reflection and throwing out fandom interpretations.... I don’t hate her. I get it now. She’s a great character study to dissect and analyze and I think she deserves more than what the writers and the fandom have given her.
And yeah, what I do hate is clemerva, and I’ve explained why. It’s not for me, it makes me uncomfortable, but at the end of the day, who cares? Me not liking it doesn’t mean anything to those who create AU’s for them. They have their reasons, they can do as they please as long as they’re not hurting anyone. I’m just here pointing out things I see and things that bother me in hopes of starting a discussion.
There’s my ramble about Minerva. I’m gonna go make some tea now.
#twdg minerva#twdg clementine#twdg sophie#twdg tenn#twdg violet#twdg louis#twdg marlon#twdg lilly#twdg aj#twdg
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Sometimes I tawk a wot and sometimes I don’t tawk at aww and somehow both awe embawwassing UwU
This post has been UwU-ified!
Sometimes I talk a lot and sometimes I don’t talk at all and somehow both are embarrassing
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genuinely fucking hate going into a tag or thread or whatever meant for special interests and finding the most watered down uwu-ified fandomized shit ever to the point where im somehow a weirdo now for not having a tv show as my special interest. i will have more fun sitting in a dark empty room thinking about cats than i ever will watching Kids Cartoon Number 738
#posts#im tired!!!!!!! tired of it!!!! i need to get better at essay writing and redearch and presentation so i can do something with my cat#obsession!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unfortunately it IS that fucking dead, I fear. The amount of cosmically bad takes I've seen about not only Vi, but Ekko, Caitlyn, Mel, hell even Silco... if it's not that then they're deliberately being obtuse because they hate certain characters (in a way that usually smacks of misogyny or racism ngl). Can't get past the post where someone equated Ekko to a trust fund baby. Like. Girl. STEP OUTSIDE.
Also I think it makes sense to show another way people fall into what others would recognize as "bad paths"? Used to live in NYC and I knew a fair amount of kids growing up, black and brown, who wanted to be cops to "change the system" and basically be what people always tell us cops are supposed to be. Whether or not they did become cops, or what happened after, I don't know, but even outside of how obviously reluctant Vi was to put on the badge, I didn't think it was entirely out of left field for A kid from the undercity to eventually become a cop.
Taking her specific character out of it, it wasn't THAT surprising to me. There are black cops. There are probably gay cops. And with people being multifaceted humans, I doubt every single one of them INITIALLY joined specifically to hurt people and throw power around. Many do, statistically, but not all. (I mean, all that cop propaganda has to be working on SOMEBODY. Brainwashing is found in every successful oppressive system/entity). Whether those ideals remain true for them the longer they stay is another story entirely.
(Plus, they had to make league of legends make sense somehow).
This was NOT supposed to be this long I just have Big Feelings over how no one seems to know how to analyze anymore??? Some people can't even take Jinx without uwu-ifying her mental illnesses... like it's not quirky that she's hallucinating??? It's not meant to be cute??? What are you doing???
people complaining about how vi becoming an enforcer in act 1 was out of character for her—that’s the fucking point! that the way she perceives this grieving caitlyn’s needs makes vi take herself apart and ignore what makes up her identity (hence the opening where she’s stripped of her tattoos and blurs the remaining one on her face). so vi picks up the enforcer uniform, she stays in piltover, she goes after jinx, not because that’s what vi wants, but because she thinks those are the requirements to make caitlyn love her, to be with her. let’s not pretend there wasn’t a scene of violet being extemely offended when she’s offered the title. the only reason she ends up accepting is because that’s what she thinks is best for cait
#reblogger was so right tho#vi#jinx#caitlyn kiramman#ekko#its unfortunate#but i fear no one can see themes anymore
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i used to get mad seeing rook being portrayed as vil’s chewtoy because i knew it to not be true and the dynamic was upsetting to me
and now i’m upset about andrew being generally uwu-ified to a huge degree,but antonio ALSO being somehow...seen as some kind of puppet on a string when even drunk he is talking to us so clearly about his situation with such clarity that it’s frightening, and him not being contracted to a demon but only held by strings taking over “when i get tired”
or perhaps it’s just being upset about robbing character’s agency for literally no reason than personal enjoyment
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✎ svt as hogwarts students! AU
this is basically a ctrl+c and ctrl+v from my twitter account bcs i wanted a different platform to save my “au’s” on! this is NOT stolen! i am @.serencty [previously @.smolteeen] on twitter
[authors note]
this au is v much based on 21st century wizarding world
lots of hp reference so if u dont get them sorry!
they're my thoughts so please dont criticize
☾ if u have any comment to say anything/to add on/questions abt hp, please reply in 'comments?' (end of thread)
⇾ seungcheol
house: gryffindor
blood status: half-blood
patronus: mongrel dog
position 01: gryffindor quidditch captain
↳ keeper
position 2: headboy
a giant dork & liked by everyone
all girls love him&boys want to be him (or vice versa works too)
knows everything abt quidditch. and i mean EVERYTHING (basically oliver wood)
sucks @ potions
has a personal bed in the infirmary (thanks 2 quidditch + potions accidents)
teaches first years flying
has friends in first year & sits and talks w/ them —the go-to person for every first years
attends quidditch matches even after graduating
⇾ jeonghan
house: slytherin
blood status: pureblood
patronus: black swan
position: prefect
boys & girls have a crush on him (a wholesome BI king)
somehow gets E (Exceeds Expectations; 2nd best) in tests without studying
hosts interhouse parties in the room of requirements called '1004'
gets away with every prank (weasley twins wHo)
loves chan; like u hurt him and u will regret that FOR LIFE
never denies dating rumours of him & cheol (a wholesome BI king pt.2)
knows all your secrets
with jisoo all the DAMN time
⇾ joshua
house: hufflepuff
blood status: muggleborn
patronus: mountain hare
position: prefect
the most popular dude in hogwarts; like even peeves likes him —he's just SO NICe ufeel
hosts guitar lessons in gardens (sings sunday morning every single lesson)
ace student in charms
bffs with jeonghan
no one expects it but he's one of the biggest prakster in hogwarts (he’s the black horse okay)
uploads 'calming guitar acoustic for studying' on jihoon's music app (check jihoon)
WILD during 1004
⇾ junhui
house: hufflepuff
blood status: pureblood
patronus: tonkinese cat
position: hufflepuff seeker
(v much like cedric)
looks like a slytherin but yeEt he’s the epitome of UWU
the 'popular guy'
a complete charmer; even portraits like him
flirts a lot but has never been to base 2 in any relationship lol
good at alchemy and DADA
in the theatre club + hoshi's dance club
no one EVER sees him study but he still gets A (Acceptable; 3rd best)
⇾ soonyoung
house: gryffindor
blood status: muggleborn
patronus: eagle
position: prefect
one of the most liked + hated person in the school
cannot and will not shut up
detention is already part of his schedule beforehand
amazing @ transfiguration so mcgonagall loves him
hosts HOSHI's DANCE club
his wand has been broken +5 times so its taped together (somehow still usable)
constantly changes hair colour to be 2cool4skool
provoked the giant squid & was unconscious for 4 weeks
obvious prankster &gets caught all the time
⇾ wonwoo
house: ravenclaw
blood status: pureblood
patronus: nebelung cat
position: ravenclaw seeker
perfect mix of slytherin&ravenclaw
super intimidating & will judge u even if ur friends
somehow bffs w/ soonyoung
↳ only one who can control him
↳ always bickering
will fuking fight u if u call anyone mudblood
in the library 24/7
↳ reading everywhere & anytime
↳ loved by madam pince
↳ helps out in the library; recommends books, shows students where they can find books,etc
good @ all subjects except care of magical creatures hes rubbish
apparates everywhere & scares the shit out of everyone
admired by lots but doesnt realise it
⇾ jihoon
house: ravenclaw
blood status: half-blood
patronus: lynx
position 01: prefect
position 02: ravenclaw chaser
literally the coolest person in hogwarts
ace student in all subjects
always writing lyrics and making beats; if u sit next to him in class, u will not get ANY work done bcs of his tapping
created soundcloud equivalent app in the wizarding world
installed wifi & made muggle technology work @ hogwarts
responsible for the booze @ 1004
↳ releases songs under the name W00ZI
⇾ minghao
house: gryffindor
blood status: half-blood
patronus: salamander
position: gryffindor chaser
the8-ifies his uniform to be "edgy"
↳ wears GUCCI with his robes
↳ cuts up his uniform& adds chains
↳ basically revolutionized diy uniforms @ hogwarts
↳ responsible for fashion trends @ hogwarts
judges u & roasts u all the time
sleeps with a kermit doll uwu
taught portraits how to dab
knows all the secret passages
best @ DADA
best dancer in HOSHI's club
⇾ mingyu
house: hufflepuff
blood status: muggleborn
patronus: mastiff
position: hufflepuff beater
the 'popular guy' w/ jun
surrounded by girls & hates it but is too nice to say NO so wonu helps out by glaringlol
not particularly good @ any subject except care of magical creatures (wonu&him help each other out)
loved by kitchen elves
↳ in the kitchens 24/7
has been locked out of the common room several times
always dirty?; dust on face, mud on shoes, etc.
has a business @ hogwarts selling muggle technology
⇾ seokmin
house: hufflepuff
blood status: muggleborn
patronus: salmon
position: hufflepuff beater
one of the most liked & hated ppl in the school pt.2
louder than soonyoung
sings 24/7 u ALWAYS know when hes comig ur way bcs his voice echoes thru the hallways
works @ honeydukes for free sweets
only good @ charms
banned from potions
uploads on jihoon's music app under DK
reason why hufflepuff never wins the house cup
kicked out of the common room for being loud
once turned himself into a salmon during transfiguration for 5hrs fb status: flapping
super COOL when playing quidditch
⇾ seungkwan
house: hufflepuff
blood status: halfblood
patronus: basset hound
position: quidditch commentator
funniest & nicest person in hogwarts
liked by everyone; ghosts? portraits? teachers? students? u name it and they only have good things to say abt boo :)
loves all his friends (esp. hansol) & will FITE U if u hurt anyone
cheers the loudest in quidditch matches (never biased though)
uploads on jihoon's music app under BOOISHERE
booseoksoon combo is everyones nightmare
good @ all subjects except flying broke his wrist like neville poor boo :,(
wins most of the points for hufflepuff
mcgonagall & hagrid's favourite student ever
killed his plant in herbology & cried
welcomed in the kitchen 24/7
⇾ hansol
house: ravenclaw
blood status: muggleborn
patronus: orangutan
uniform has holes everywhere
↳ wears SUPREME and THRASHERS under the robe
skates to class
has a cassette player 24/7 hes just that wannabe cool 90′s kid okey
never listens in class but does well in tests so the teachers let him be
↳ daydreams alot but his daydreams are with meaning??/?
friends w/ the giant squid
no.1 listened rapper on jihoon's music app (under VERNON)
writes lyrics all the time
girls ♡ him but he ?
rapped for dumbledore's bday & got 250 points
bffs w/ seungkwan
↳ does covers w/ him
↳ w/ him all the time despite not being in the same house
good @ astronomy
⇾ chan
house: gryffindor
blood status: pureblood
patronus: marsh harrier
position: quidditch commentator bangchan is HERE
hangs out w/ older kids (esp. jeonghan)
good @ all subjects; a child prodigy we stAn
“DANCING IS MY PASSION”
↳ part of HOSHI's dance club
↳ watched+ listened to MJ and fell in LOVE ; loved dancing ever since
makes potions that makes u a little loopy/high for 1004
savage af
cried when jisoo got him MJ bed sheets & pjs for his bday
knows everyone's secrets (blame jeonghan)
surprisingly doesnt have that many friends
interested in muggle stuff
#seventeen#svt#kpop#kpopau#seventeen au#hogwarts au#kpop au#seungcheol#s.coups#jeonghan#joshua#jisoo#jun#junhui#soonyoung#hoshi#wonwoo#jihoon#woozi#the8#minghao#seokmin#dk#mingyu#seungkwan#hansol#vernon#chan#dino#0214mileau
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